Creating Impact – How Your Legacy Starts Today

Creating Impact – How Your Legacy Starts Today

Wendy Dodds:
You’ve poured belief in me and helped me be able to make decisions or recognize things before I even knew what I wanted to do or before I even believed in myself.

Rob Dale:
And what I now know is I had never seen depicted in media a genuine desire to

Kate Beere:
just grow and be the true person you are, causes me

Rob Dale:
to wanna be the true person I am. Most of that

Eric Deschamps:
was me trying to right a wrong.

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
I was doing good to try to right a wrong, and the wrong that I was trying to right was me. Welcome, everyone, to the Living Richly podcast. We’re so glad that you’ve joined us today. We always look forward to having great conversations together and have you listening in, and we’re so excited about the ongoing, support for the show and the momentum that we’re seeing. I think we just crossed 75,000 subscribers.

Kate Beere:
How incredible is that? I’m a

Eric Deschamps:
huge huge channel. Right? Yeah.

Kate Beere:
Thank you. Without you,

Eric Deschamps:
it wouldn’t be possible. But we’re here today to talk about creating legacy, building your legacy. And this is really the 4th element of the quadrant model that we’ve been exploring. Back in episode 76, we talked about, designing a life that you’ve always dreamed of. That’s the, the show that we actually launched, the 15 day life vision challenge, which lots of folks have participated in. Episode 80, we looked at reclaiming your story, which is, how to truly, leverage your past, to live a better life, live your richest life. And then most recently in episode 86, we looked at mastering the moment, which is all about showing up more fully in your life on a day to day basis as opposed to being stuck in your past or obsessing about the future. But today, we wanna talk about legacy, and that’s a big word.

Eric Deschamps:
So I’m curious. Let’s kick off with a, I think, a foundational question In your own words, and I’m gonna throw this to you first, Wendy, what does the word legacy mean to you?

Wendy Dodds:
I say so the first thing that comes to mind is it’s that lasting impact that you’re leaving based on the values that you uphold, what you’ve nurtured and cultivated in your life, and what people think of you as as that continues to evolve.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Love that.

Rob Dale:
Yeah. I think for me, it’s I think when we think about legacy, I think people get overwhelmed. Like, it’s this big thing that you have to achieve. And, really, it’s from my lens, it’s you know, in really thinking about this and and preparing for today, I was like, okay. The legacy, big. Even for me, I was, like, a bit overwhelmed by it. Mhmm. But I really do think it’s the buildup of all those small things that you do in your life day to day.

Rob Dale:
Are you living on purpose? Is it aligned with your values? I think at the end of the day, I don’t think it has to be monumental in scope. You know, if you use a sports analogy and, you know, I’ve won 10 Super Bowls, and people think that legacy is huge. And I really do think it’s the small everyday things that you do.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Love

Kate Beere:
that. You know, I one of my favorite movies, we’ve talked about movies in the past, Gladiator. Right? Yeah. And the idea one of the opening scenes when, Russell Crowe’s character and he’s, you know, what you do in this life echoes through eternity, and it’s like Are you gonna do

Eric Deschamps:
the accent?

Kate Beere:
No. No. I’m not doing it. He said it with your accent. You’re the accent guy. I’m not the accent guy. But but it is to your point, it’s it’s big words and legacy is and it can be this overwhelming idea of of, you know, what are we gonna do that’s gonna last for generations. And I do think when you live out a legacy in the day to day stuff, the impact, to use rep, echoes through eternity, or it impacts into the lives of the people you’ve influenced in ways that, you know, you may not realize even in the moment.

Kate Beere:
Yeah. But it is about the day to day, experience, the things that we’re doing now. And and I love that in many we’ve done this on a number of episodes where we take big concept words Yeah. And we normalize them. Yeah. And I think that’s our goal today is to let’s normalize legacy rather than make it this overwhelming thing that, you know, is about, you know, down the road and and what that experience is like.

Eric Deschamps:
Well, I think any futuristic way of looking at legacy, certainly, that’s an aspect of it. Right? I think Philip Yancey years ago said you can tell the size of a ship that’s passed out of view from the size of the weight it leaves beneath water. Right? So but but often, I used to think of that as, okay, well, after I’m gone, right, after I’m no longer here, what deposit will I have made in the lives of the people around me and the world around me, that will continue to echo an eternity. Right? And to to borrow, Russell Crowe’s quote, from a great movie. And I think we recently geeked out on a bunch of movies on

Kate Beere:
whole bunch of them. Our

Eric Deschamps:
our last, mindfulness

Kate Beere:
movie series.

Eric Deschamps:
We were it was it was bad. You you both would have been embarrassed, actually. Yep.

Wendy Dodds:
I’m embarrassed.

Rob Dale:
I’m embarrassed. I’m embarrassed. I’m embarrassed. You’re still talking?

Eric Deschamps:
I’m still talking. I’m still talking. But I think anytime we we put it to the future, we lose the opportunity to make a difference now. And ultimately, when we talk about living your best life, you know, if you if you’re able to reclaim some of your past and, some of that trauma, some of those hardships and mine them for gold for now, you’re able to show up more fully in the present, if you’re living a life that’s more on point Yeah. Right, and more deliberate and intentional, at some point, right, we have to start channeling that towards making the world a better place or else it all kind of feels very self serving.

Kate Beere:
Right. Right. How we how so the I I see legacy as the outcome or the the result of the of the day to day stuff we’re doing now. It’s it’s kind of, you know, the end. What what happens? It’s the product that’s created based on us living in the moment and living our best lives and all of that. And I’ve used this example. I’ve been using it for probably 35, 40 years, and I was sharing with you guys before. And again, this notion of and I challenge our our listeners and those watching on YouTube or listening on on the on the podcast.

Kate Beere:
Just right now, think about your great grandparents. Mhmm. Can you name all of, like so we were talking now, 1, 2, 3, 4, 8 different people. Yeah. Can you name their can you give us their first and last names of all eight people?

Eric Deschamps:
That’s a rhetorical question. You’re not asking us to actually

Kate Beere:
I’m not asking it. No. I’m not I can’t do it. I do it. Yeah. And and some might, and then I go, okay. Well, how about your great grandparents? And what that tells is can you name all 16?

Rob Dale:
Yeah.

Kate Beere:
The the reality is is within 2 to 3 generations, your own lineage won’t even know your name. Yeah. So it’s not about leaving legacy is not about having, you know, the plaque on the wall or or your name, the the street named after you or whatever the case might be. It’s about the little things that you do that cause that echo that impacts That ripple. The ripple that that impacts the next generation, the next generation, and maybe 20, 30 generations down the line. That’s what we’re talking about when it comes to making the world a better place.

Eric Deschamps:
I love that. I absolutely love that. What turning points or events in your lives have have helped shaped, give give given shape to your understanding of legacy and making that impact in other people’s lives.

Rob Dale:
Well, to tie into what Rob just said, for me, just, like, having kids, period. I understood really quickly the impact I had on on their world. Right? From how I live my life, you know, the expression kids don’t do what you say. They do what you do. Right? So, like, understanding that my kids are are constantly watching me and learning from me. You know, you learn early on when you swear you know, when your kids are, like, 4 or something and they swear, and you’re like, it’s kinda funny at the beginning. Let’s be honest. But then it’s like that moment of, like, oh, shit.

Rob Dale:
Right? Because you’re like, they really do watch everything I do. And so for me, that, you know, did it happen when they were born? No. But over time, what I’ve realized is that, like, having kids is, like, the most important part of where I hope to leave a legacy, and that’s through how I live my life. And that’s the values and kindness. And that, for me, has been maybe the most important part or where I wanna leave the most impact.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Wendy Dodds:
Yeah. I think mine would be tied a little bit into kids when I think about my girls, but it also ties to when I made the decision to leave my first marriage because I wasn’t whole. I wasn’t happy. I wanted more despite so many people thinking I was selfish, but I wanted my daughters to be able to I wanted to be able to have those open conversations with them that at some point in their life, they will need to make decisions for them. And I wanted to leave that legacy or or let them really understand that they can do, be, and have anything they want, if they choose to live their purpose and they choose to live, you know, authentically. Authenticly. There we go.

Kate Beere:
Authentically.

Eric Deschamps:
There we go.

Kate Beere:
Nailed

Rob Dale:
it. Nailed it.

Kate Beere:
Nailed it. Wow. Wow. That’s big.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. That’s a big word.

Wendy Dodds:
It’s a big word.

Kate Beere:
That is a big word. There’s lots of syllables

Wendy Dodds:
in here.

Rob Dale:
There’s lots of what?

Kate Beere:
There’s lots of what? Blah blah blah blah. This is gonna be a great show. Wow. We’re we’re

Eric Deschamps:
gonna we’re gonna sign up for a phonetics course after this.

Kate Beere:
Yeah. It’s everyone on the line. See our words. Turning point around legacy for me. October 1920, 2012 Wow. At 10 PM.

Rob Dale:
Wow. Specific. Very specific.

Eric Deschamps:
10 PM.

Kate Beere:
It was exactly 10 PM. No. It was 10 PM. I know because I looked at the time, and it was a defining moment for me. It was October 19th, my birthday, and it was, a month after I had resigned and left the church world. At the time, I was getting all kinds of of just nasty hate. My I believe my reputation was in ruins. My legacy was in ruins.

Kate Beere:
My kids were devastated, and it was the really my first engagement with them. I was staying at a friend’s place. They were gone out that night, and I, so I went out for dinner with my girls and took them to a movie, and then the movie ended, and I didn’t want them to leave because I didn’t wanna be alone. So I said, hey. Let’s let’s go watch another movie, and we did a second movie. And then they, you know, they headed back to their moms. And I went back to this house and I’m sitting there completely alone realizing that I was alone, that I everything I’d built in my adult life up to that point was gone. And I remember sitting there just thinking, what am I what am I gonna be about? Right.

Kate Beere:
What do I wanna be remembered for? What is my who am I? What is my life? And that was a an absolute moment. And, you know, the the the couple that I was staying with, they came home, they brought they they must have stopped at a Tim’s or something on their way home, got a cupcake, with a candle in it, and they gave it to me. I remember bawling when they gave it to me because I just it was but that whole moment of everything in that to that point was gone. And if my legacy was all about that, there was there was no reason for hope. Right? But it was that was the moment when I started to say now, who am I going to be, and the journey into healing into all of all of the stuff we talk in Living Bridget. So, yeah, that very specific How

Rob Dale:
interesting is that though that you’re, you know, we’re talking about legacy and legacy can change. Right?

Eric Deschamps:
Right. Right.

Rob Dale:
So I think that’s, like, you telling that very powerful story, Rob. It’s just it’s, you know, your legacy isn’t, like, imprinted, the second you’re born. You you you get to change that. You get to kinda pave that out for yourself.

Kate Beere:
Very powerful.

Eric Deschamps:
And and there’s nothing like pain, and hardship to make you take a look at your life and say, am I on point? Am I living the way that I want? And that’s the essence of the message of this show, of this entire movement is about defining who you are, what you stand for. And, ultimately, as we talk about legacy today, I think more and more, the word deposit, the word impact, the word making a difference. Right? Leaving the world a better place. For me, the the the fundamental probably greatest shift most fundamental shift in my understanding of this was in during my 2nd Great Awakening, April, 2022, come out of a period of a lot of hurt, a lot of pain, and it led to really this, these conversations that we were having about what does it mean to live your best life. And for me, perp this this particular quadrant for me, I’ve lived in purpose and making a difference and serving others for the better part of 40 years. I was thinking about it. Like, somebody asked me recently on another show that I was on. They were interviewing me, and they said, how long have you been helping people? I’m going, like, mid teens.

Eric Deschamps:
I I I remember bringing people, like Yeah. Kids from school, you know, or kids from church that were struggling, and it was a running joke at, my house. My parents would be like, so who’s staying the weekend this weekend? Because I was constantly bringing strays home. It’s always been part of who I am, but what I realized over time, and I’ve talked about it before is most of that was me trying to right a wrong.

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
I was doing good to try to right a wrong and the wrong that I was trying to right was me. I was the thing that was wrong, flawed, deficient. Right? And so I figured maybe if if I’m not a good person, if I’m fundamentally flawed, at least maybe I can make a difference in other people.

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
And maybe eventually I can I can balance the ledger? Right? Only to discover I didn’t have to balance a ledger at all. And, so now it, yeah, for now when I serve and I give and I do what I do, it flows out of just who I am. Yeah. There’s not this guilt or shame that I’m trying to somehow run from or numb from. Yeah. It’s just an extension of who, of who I am. Right?

Kate Beere:
And

Rob Dale:
what an amazing gift.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Yeah. It was most one of the most life changing things. And I tell the story in another show, but you remember the day I went to pick up my son at the Yeah. At the mall from work, and I walked past a homeless guy that was sitting outside by himself in the cold. And I immediately ran inside, went up to Tim Horton’s, bought him a coffee and a sandwich, and brought it down to him. And I remember getting back into I tell the story episode 3, of the show, which seems like forever ago now. Right? Episode 96 now.

Eric Deschamps:
And I remember getting back and sitting in my Jeep, and it’s like, that’s who I am. This is a fundamental expression of who I am. And it’s like I was re I had recaptured something that somehow I had lost. Right?

Rob Dale:
Amazing.

Eric Deschamps:
Legacy is a powerful thing. And, again, it shows up in so many ways. A deposit’s made by other people, influence they’ve had on our lives. Again, I think often the misnomer is we think of legacy as the financial, that right, inheritance that I’m gonna leave my my children or leave my family. Right? That’s often how it’s used. But again, it’s this notion of that deposit that will live on after you have gone, whether that’s after you’ve left this world or whether you encounter someone in the checkout line and you smile and make them feel good and then you’re gone out of their lives, but in that moment, you made that small deposit. Who are some of the folks, in your life that have been most influential whose legacy has really inspired you?

Kate Beere:
Well, I mean, for me, it’s easy. You. And and, yeah. Oh, I didn’t know you were gonna say it. If we if we weren’t recording right now, I’d give you a hug. Oh, buddy. No. But I honestly, in all in in all seriousness, it you are somebody who your legacy and what I’ve seen in you, and we’ve known each other, you know, many, many moons.

Kate Beere:
You know, we have seen we’ve known each other a very long time, and I’ve seen those transitions in life. I’ve watched them firsthand. And, you know, and I say this to people often when I’m if we’re talking about you or they’re listening to the the episodes, like, you genuinely the way you show up here is you. Yeah. And the authenticity around that. And, you probably capture more than anyone I know the the passion, the the deep curiosity as a value. I see it where you’re so curious to explore stuff, you’re so open to and oftentimes, I’ve made up my mind on something, and I see that curiosity in you, and I go, yeah, what if I think differently? What if I just be curious about this? And and so watching you through those transitions has been very inspiring for me and very motivating. Like, you’re probably well, not probably, you are.

Kate Beere:
That’s the person who influences me the most today because of that genuine desire to just grow and be the true person you are causes me to wanna be the true person I am. And I think that’s a real value. So, yeah, I purposely didn’t put in the notes there because I didn’t Thank you, brother.

Eric Deschamps:
That means a lot, especially coming from you. Wow.

Kate Beere:
Well, nobody You guys. Yeah. Follow-up on that, guys. Mike. So

Rob Dale:
That was a very

Eric Deschamps:
So thanks for tuning in, everyone.

Rob Dale:
That was so lovely.

Kate Beere:
That was lovely.

Wendy Dodds:
I’ll add, though. I mean, so for me and just the the years that we’ve had the opportunity to to get to know each other and obviously get married and kinda walk that path, your legacy is oh, I feel like I’m gonna start to cry.

Kate Beere:
Uh-uh. Here we go. Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
Okay. It’s an emotional show.

Kate Beere:
Yeah.

Wendy Dodds:
Oh, jeez. Your legacy is one that, deeply inspires me because oh, jeez. Just from a meaningful and an impactful perspective, and I feel like you just you just do so much for so many people, and you just always see the good in so many people, and you’re just such a testament to your journey of showing people, how they can live through the human spirit in terms of what they want and and enduring and thriving and and all of those things through incredible adversity. So

Kate Beere:
Thank you.

Wendy Dodds:
Okay.

Eric Deschamps:
That’s beautiful.

Rob Dale:
Well, I can my my mine isn’t one of you.

Kate Beere:
I’m sorry. Oh, wow. No. I

Rob Dale:
don’t wanna share mine.

Kate Beere:
Awkward. Awkward.

Eric Deschamps:
No. Not

Kate Beere:
at all.

Eric Deschamps:
No. No. No.

Rob Dale:
No. No. That was beautifully said, Wendy. For me, honestly, it’s Maya Angelou, and it’s via Oprah. And for me, like, I Oprah was, like, my therapist growing up.

Eric Deschamps:
For millions of people.

Rob Dale:
For millions of people. And you talk about legacy, and you you know, Oprah and legacy and what she’s done and given back. But watching her through her her own growth journey, you know, she is what opened my mind to, like, true spirituality, intention, mindfulness. She’d have great songs like Eckhart Tolle, and then start to bring in more women like Brene Brown. And so just really for me was, you know, very impactful. She led with kindness, right, but was a strong woman. And so later on learning that her mentor was Maya Maya Angelou, who, you know, is this incredible woman, so well spoken, and her back story is horrific. Mhmm.

Rob Dale:
She was brutally raped at, like, 6 or 7 years old by her mother’s boyfriend, and then her uncles eventually murdered this man. And the trauma of it, left her mute for 6 or 7 years. And Maya Angelou is this amazingly spoken woman who uses words. She’s a poet. You know, she’s on stage. Powerful, powerful. And to know she didn’t speak for 6 or 7 years.

Kate Beere:
Incredible.

Rob Dale:
And what she leads with is power and strength, but through kindness and forgiveness. And what I now know is I had never seen depicted in media a strong, powerful woman who stands up for herself and her rights done in a kind way based in forgiveness. What I what I saw was powerful women on shows in business suits who were nasty, mean, conniving, not good moms, and who were frankly quite bitchy. And so to see a model of what a powerful, strong, kind woman could look like, I don’t think I realized until recently how much that has influenced me Yeah. And what a legacy to leave behind.

Kate Beere:
Right. And I think

Eric Deschamps:
I think what’s most fascinating, about all of those stories is we often have no clue the impact that we’re having on other people. Yeah. And, honestly, like, when you think of people you’ve touched, people you’ve encouraged, people you’ve helped along the way, who knows if other people somewhere else aren’t saying, hey. Who’s influenced you the most or had a significant impact on your life and our names might come up or folks that are watching the show, their name might come up, and they’re totally oblivious to the fact that they made they made that that impact. Right? For me, I have to say when I think of old Eric to new Eric, you talk about transitions you’ve watched me go through, and you certainly have been there, for many of them. You think of how long you you you put up with different versions of me if I’m not right? Is it sad, though, that we often trap people in a past version of themselves? Right? So we tell it’s like in our minds, they’re not allowed to evolve. Right. People do change if they’re doing the work.

Eric Deschamps:
But for me, it would definitely be Jim. I’ve talked about Jim Harrington. He’s had such a significant impact, on my life. We had Jim on the show, last year, a couple episodes. Yeah. Mhmm. And, he’s just an amazing man. He’s worked with our team.

Eric Deschamps:
And, of course, our coach Sherry, Sherry Kane, who’s also been on the show Yep. And has had such a tremendous influence. Those two individuals, more than anyone else, have, been instrumental in in in changing me from the inside out. I had to do the work. They’ll remind me of that. They said, Eric, you’ve done the work. I said, but I couldn’t have done it without their support. Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
And and so I’m so grateful for them, and for that. It it I don’t know if you have if all all of you if any of you have, like, what I would call legacy statement or a purpose statement. And if you if you don’t, if you had one, what would it what would it sound like? What would it be?

Wendy Dodds:
I think I think for me, living transparently, and in your honest truth is probably the best way to describe that for me.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Well, you use the hashtag truth dealer. Truth.

Wendy Dodds:
Yeah. Right?

Eric Deschamps:
In all of your posts, so that that resonates as soon as you were saying that. Like, well, yeah, that sounds like Wendy. Yeah.

Kate Beere:
Well, that and even if you’re right, and even the you know, for Instagram, the right? The real life and and I’ve off we’ve often had conversations around that is the from everyone. Real life is messy. Right? And so to have all of that, the the that that vulnerability and the transparency showing on the, on on the way that your socials and the way that you communicate, it’s that’s what is I hear people say it all the time is you’ve given them permission, people that you’ve coached or that you influenced through training. You give them permission to, you know, they’ll admit to you. Yeah. Last night, I, dove into a bag of whatever, you know, chips or whatever, and I just stuffed my face and ate it all. And you’ll be like, yeah. I did that with cheese.

Kate Beere:
Right? Jesus better.

Rob Dale:
The whole the whole bag. Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
What about for you? What about the purpose statement? Or like I

Kate Beere:
said Yeah. And I’ve defined it and I I I’ve been tweaking it over the last little while. And so I I wrote it down just to make sure that I because I’m still kinda tweaking it out. But it’s I really believe this is to inspire others to live a life of authenticity. I did it. See? Pursue the highest potential and lead with integrity and compassion.

Eric Deschamps:
I love that.

Kate Beere:
And so and and unpacking all of that, there’s lots that would be unpacked, but in a ultimately, it is to inspire people to live their best life.

Rob Dale:
Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. What about you?

Rob Dale:
I don’t have one.

Eric Deschamps:
If you were to put one

Rob Dale:
So yeah. So and I thought about it for the show, and I’m like, I really wanted to hear you say, like, I’m taking time and, like, I would like to take time and finesse it. So I think for me, what encompasses it though is I’d wanna look back with as little regret as possible. And that’s really what that means for me though is and putting it in a nice sentence like Rob says, is, like, it really is though about living, like, aligned to my values. It’s living for me, that’s a lot of kindness. It’s looking back, not not regretting jumping ship and starting my own business. It’s I don’t wanna look back with regret on so many parts of my life with my kids not telling them I love them every day. And that for me means being super aligned with my values and giving back and kindness.

Rob Dale:
And so the statement itself, I don’t have, but I I know all the bits of it.

Eric Deschamps:
For sure.

Rob Dale:
You’ve got

Eric Deschamps:
that guiding you in terms of 100%. Yeah. For me, it’s, it’s it’s pretty simple, and and it it it’s evolved over time. It’s to live my best life and help others do the same. And, what’s what that may sound really simple, but to put that first part in there, was the most significant area of growth for me because I never thought, again, in my past that I was worthy of a of goodness, worthy of a good life, that I didn’t deserve that, that all I deserved was pain. So to to put myself first goes to the model of, you know, radical self acceptance, radical self care, radical self actualization. It’s interesting when we look and we talk about this whole notion of legacy. Right? It was Maslow, in Maslow’s hierarchy of needs that he created a long time ago.

Eric Deschamps:
And he talks about that we all have these motivational needs. And and if the the the lower levels aren’t met, you can’t achieve the next one. Right? So he talks about basically your he starts with your physiological needs. So you need food, shelter,

Kate Beere:
kind of,

Eric Deschamps:
like that’s kind of basic. Right? Food, water, shelter. Then he moves to security needs. You need to have a sense of safety, a sense of security. That job security even belongs in there. Right? So if you feel like financial security. So that’s, the second layer. The third layer is, love and belonging needs if I’m getting this straight.

Eric Deschamps:
So the need to belong, the need to be in a relationship, the need to be in community. And then ultimately, the earliest model no. Sorry. The next level is self esteem. So esteem needs. Feeling good about yourself and feeling that you’ve got the respect of the people that matter to you. And then the last 5th layer was what he called self actualization, becoming your best self and living your potential. What’s really, really and it’s a powerful model.

Eric Deschamps:
It’s a great model. I use it all the time with my clients when we’re trying to understand. I’m struggling to motivate my people. Just had this conversation with a team, and they’re trying to motivate their people to self actualize. And I’m, like, you guys are talking about selling the business. So your your people right now are at level 2, wondering if they still have a job in 6 months.

Rob Dale:
Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
And you’re trying to give get them to so it just opened their eyes to say, oh my god. We’re having the wrong conversation here. Right? We need to actually stabilize this down here

Kate Beere:
Right.

Eric Deschamps:
If we hope our people do. But what’s interesting about Maslow is, very close to his death. Just before he died, he wasn’t didn’t like the model anymore because something was missing. He felt something had been missing from it. And he added in his final days or, like, final, moments, the the level of self transcendence.

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
Living beyond yourself. And a big part of that is giving back and and and, again, living, a life that, is fully actualized, but is not just about self. It’s right? It’s about the greater good, right, which I found found was fascinating. And I think this ties us very closely to values. Right? We talk so much about values on the show. We’ve already talked about values even on this show. When you think about values and how they align with the kind of life you want to live, how do you ensure how do you guys make sure that you’re in alignment with those values, especially when life is hard?

Rob Dale:
It’s hard. I know. But it is.

Kate Beere:
It is.

Rob Dale:
Like, let’s be honest. I know for me, gratitude, you guys know this. It’s my gratitude is one of my biggest grounding elements for me. So I gratitude allows me to actually it forces me to get present, and it forces me and forces a strong word, but it it it flips my mindset around looking at a negative situation. So for me, if I think, like, I’m at I’m at work, something’s happening with a client, I’m bitching. Right? Like, to me, that’s that’s off not aligned with my values. So when I sink into gratitude, for me, what that means is, okay. You you you get to be a partner in a business.

Rob Dale:
You you get to have clients. You get to work this through. You get to solve this problem. And, like, the get to for me is what resets me that then allows me to be like, oh, okay. I can look at it from this lens. And so it just shifts me, and it shifts me and not I’m not, like, fully, like, like, Pollyanna happy all the time. I just mean, like but it does flip my mindset enough that it shakes me out. And I’m, like, oh, okay.

Rob Dale:
I lose And I can move. Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
I love that. I love

Kate Beere:
I like I love that you you did use that language. You could pull back on it, but you started out where it forces you. And I I that’s in some ways, that’s what our values should do. Right? Our values are management tools. They’re they are supposed to be the directors of what we do. And so the idea that it it really does push you into another mindset or I in my head as you right before you shared it, I was thinking I the word perspective came in. It forces another perspective before you react. And Yeah.

Kate Beere:
So often that’s what happens is we’re in challenging situations, we react. And so for me, that’s where the power of reflection comes into when I’m in a if if I’m forced into having to make a decision quick or something has come up and it’s because it’s challenged and there’s crisis happening. Now sometimes in crisis, you do react because you have to, right? The building’s on fire, that’s a crisis, get out of the building, react. Just don’t think, don’t don’t put, don’t have a strategy set.

Eric Deschamps:
Fight or flight serves you well in most

Wendy Dodds:
cases.

Kate Beere:
100%. But in most cases, we do have time to pause and reflect before we react.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah.

Kate Beere:
And I’m such a big believer that, lasting legacy doesn’t come out of the reactive moments of the day, but the proactive moments. The moments where we are able to pause and reflect, that’s where the real lasting that’s where the echo happens at. And I think you’d be able to have that moment.

Eric Deschamps:
Well, I love that because I think, you know, we we talk about values being your your compass. Right? And that without them, we spend so much time coasting, drifting Yeah. Living according to the must, shoulds, and have tos, living the supposed life, that other people think we should be living. Yeah. And when we do that, we we may bump into goodness and bump into moments of of of of kindness to other people and and making a difference. But we’re legacy legacy can be is a neutral word. It’s not it’s not necessarily, like, even when we talk about making an impact. Well, impact is neutral.

Eric Deschamps:
You can have a positive impact on the world around you. You can have a negative.

Kate Beere:
So good.

Eric Deschamps:
You can pass on a a positive legacy. You can pass off pass on negative legacy. Think of generational trauma. And Yeah. Think of passing on, like, hurt and pain that you’ve never resolved. Now all of us, I think, will have a mixed bag

Kate Beere:
Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
That we pass on. Let’s face it. Right? We’re gonna there’s gonna be things we go, I hope my kids didn’t pick up on that. Yeah. And I really hope they pick up on this. Right? And, so there’s gonna be a mixed bag. But I think when you’re living according to your values, right, when you’re when you define them

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Eric Deschamps:
And you’re using them to guide your day to day actions, you are gonna live, a life that’s more on point. And I think you will you will tip the scale towards passing on far more goodness and kindness and, making a positive impact than passing on some of the stuff that you’re adding.

Kate Beere:
So yeah. Mhmm. Yep. Oh, and we all my heart’s

Rob Dale:
still all in the

Kate Beere:
wet wetting me. Look.

Eric Deschamps:
There’s a words of wet. Wisdom, Wendy.

Kate Beere:
Wow. Wisdom words from Wendy. That’ll be a new hashtag.

Wendy Dodds:
No. I think just really quickly for me, it’s just becoming really in tune with my body. So learning very just intentional, feelings, signals, signs when I need to slow the fuck down, and get very comfortable with silence. I’ve always been the type of person that avoids that. I think people people get very uncomfortable with silence. Yeah. I like if I’m coaching, you know, my team, you know, one thing I say is, like, and and people laugh. I’m like, I’m I’ll ask a question, and then nobody will say I say, I’m very comfortable with silence.

Wendy Dodds:
And and a lot of people aren’t. But that’s learn that’s helped me be able to be comfortable, learn to be comfortable with my silence so that I could hear and start to work on my inner critic or whatever it is. So I’ve just become very in tune with my body around that.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. That’s amazing. That’s amazing. We we’re talking about Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. We’re talking about that self transcendence level that he added much later in life, and that living again, living richly, there has to be this component, in in the world of even, bodies of water. Right? If a lake doesn’t have inputs and outputs, that body of water can become stagnant. And and so I think this is why it was so important, to add this quadrant to this model to really get people to consider, the positive impact that they want to make, the legacy that they’re leaving in a day to day basis. I’m curious, looking at the broader scope of your lives, what areas do you feel you have made the most significant positive impact? I I

Kate Beere:
would say this. One area for sure, and I can I can say only because I see it in my in my girls and my children, is, their willingness to step up and defend, those who perhaps don’t have a voice for themselves? I see it. I’m so like, both both, Britt and and Remi, in their own ways and in their own causes, they are willing to take a stand for others, and that’s something that I hope they’ve seen, lived out in me over the years where I’m willing to do that and I’m willing to stand with a marginalized group that perhaps has not had the voice that they have that I have as a result of whether it’s just my network and everything. And I see it oftentimes even in social posts and stuff like that, my girls doing the same. And whenever I do, I always reach out to them and tell them how proud I am of them for taking that stance in that. So maybe that’s, one that I would be able to say for sure. I hope that if they were asked, they would say that’s something that we learned from our dad.

Eric Deschamps:
Yep.

Kate Beere:
You know, I can only hope. I I can only well, I I could I more than hope. I could ask them. I could ask them. And and, you know, hope they don’t lie to me. I’ll be like, right? They don’t tell

Eric Deschamps:
you what you’re gonna hear. Dad.

Kate Beere:
Yeah. I’ll be honest. I will call you dad. Like, right? Yeah. But, you know, that would be one that comes to mind. Yeah.

Rob Dale:
Yeah. I mean, I I hope I have influence on my kid. Like, I hope that to the same degree. Do I know? I have 3 teenagers right now. I have no clue.

Kate Beere:
And their brains aren’t even able to afford it.

Wendy Dodds:
You you could ask, though.

Kate Beere:
You could ask. You could ask. Still won’t get an answer.

Rob Dale:
No. No idea.

Eric Deschamps:
They’re like, seriously, mom?

Rob Dale:
Yeah. Exactly. So think for me, it’s it’s wherever I’ve worked, I love mentoring young talent. Like, that is something that fills my cup. It’s something I’m super passionate about. It’s something I enjoy. And I there’s something about that that seeks me out wherever I go as well. And so I see that.

Rob Dale:
I know for me that that has shown up in every job I’ve had, and it I get such joy out of being able to help somebody in that setting in particular. Do I know that it’s have impact? I don’t know. I mean, I can you know, there’s still people that still reach out to me, you know, who were on my team, you know, 15 years ago, and we still connect. And I still love those conversations. And it’s it’s so powerful to me to know that you can help someone manage a difficult situation, overcome something, like, empower them to take control of their own career, to see their worth internally. For me, that is just one area I hope I’ve lost a little bit of legacy. Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
That’s amazing. That’s amazing. What about for you?

Wendy Dodds:
Very similar to to what, Robin, and Kate said, and and just continuing to be aligned with the right people that share the same values and passion that I do Yeah. Doesn’t mean that they need to agree with everything and that this has nothing to do with what it’s about. But I’ve said it before, you know, where your energy goes, your energy flows and really being intentional about, what those relationships and and what those energies look like to be able to transpire into, just having the right people in your circle.

Kate Beere:
Yeah. I love that. Yeah. You know, it it got me thinking, and and maybe I I’m gonna put a challenge out to our listeners that, you know, if there’s somebody who has impacted your life, in a positive way that is really, you know, there there has been that moment, don’t stay silent about it. Yeah. But, you know, think of it right now. Maybe even even hit pause here. Just send a text

Wendy Dodds:
or

Kate Beere:
send a No.

Eric Deschamps:
Don’t hit pause. You never pause this podcast. Yeah.

Kate Beere:
Well, listen to it all. Right? You know, make a point because I think that sometimes I know that there are oftentimes where I will think somebody will have made an impact, and I go, oh, they know. And I and I don’t do that. And just a perfect example is we’re all kind because I as I’m I keep thinking of now, you know, people that have reached out to me, you know, youth ministers or kids from programs when I ran them who have reached out now with their adults. Hey. I want you to know you’ve made that and how meaningful that is. And so if there’s, you know, for listeners, if there’s somebody that has that comes to mind right away, don’t miss out on the opportunity to just send that note and say thank you.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. A 100%. Because, again, we said earlier on the show, the vast majority of us have no idea. Yeah. The people that we may have touched, impacted, influenced, even strangers that we may have had, in that moment of time, that we made a difference in their lives. Absolutely. Often, I think a lot of folks live their lives thinking their lives don’t matter, that there’s no purpose, they’re not making any kind of difference in that note, that email, that text, might really, make their day, right, in terms of letting them know you had a a positive impact on me. So I’m glad you said that.

Eric Deschamps:
For me, I’m gonna say, I I’d like to believe the greatest area of impact, has been in my coaching work, especially with long term clients where you have the opportunity to serve them, walk with them, support them over time, and watch the lights come on, watch them find their way, watch the penny drop, right, and know that you grow up. Watch them grow up and watch myself grow up in the process with them. Right? I I’d say definitely, it’s been in those those one to one conversations, where, in that safe and sacred space of coaching, they they put they let down their guard and

Kate Beere:
Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
They just show up as they

Kate Beere:
are and were able

Eric Deschamps:
to kinda navigate the way forward. There’s nothing. I absolutely love that. Any plans to, amplify your your reach over time? Not that that’s the, the end game because we’re trying to define legacy here as it’s not just the big and bold stuff that we do. The, it’s it’s also in the little interactions. But what plans do you have perhaps for amplifying your legacy or impact, in the near to long term future?

Kate Beere:
Well, I’m gonna start question. I’m gonna start a podcast, called Living Rich, dude. We already did that. Oh, yeah. We’re doing it. We’re amplifying. Yeah. Hey.

Kate Beere:
I got it. Now it’s raining. So not a beach.

Eric Deschamps:
We should just take the the show to the beach.

Kate Beere:
Right. There we go.

Eric Deschamps:
Why we not recording this somewhere in Costa Rica?

Kate Beere:
Hey, Steve. Hey, Steve. You could do that?

Eric Deschamps:
Steve’s all in. Oh,

Kate Beere:
man. I I will say this. The more we lean into, living our authentic lives. The more natural the notion of of, amplifying the impact happens. And and and so when you say, have you got any plans? My my my my short answer is fuck yeah. Yeah. Like, the more I experience this, the more I want others to experience it. The more I find freedom in living out my true self, the more I want others to experience that.

Kate Beere:
And and the opportunity to do that, I’ll shout it from the rooftops. We’ll shout it through this podcast. We’ll shout it through our coaching. We’ll shout it through, you know, through, our our, you know, being, you know, just attending and being part of communities like we are with Orangetheory. Like, all of that is opportunities to just impact. And so, yeah, I wanna magnify that over and over again. Yeah. I love that.

Kate Beere:
I’m addicted to it. Right?

Rob Dale:
Yeah. I like, I plans? No. Like, are they written down? No.

Kate Beere:
I

Rob Dale:
didn’t write anything down apparently in preparation.

Kate Beere:
Wow. I just show you what I’m doing. Just

Rob Dale:
but, yeah, I mean, ditto to what Rob said. There’s something so empowering about living authentically. And, you know, living authentically doesn’t always mean it’s super easy. Right? It’s it’s can be hard and relationships shift and but what comes with it is this ease of, like there’s an ease with when you’re living on purpose authentically yourself. There’s no more of this need to, like, pretend to be someone you’re not. So to empower other people to be able to live like that, it’s addictive, to use Rob’s word. Like, it just you want other people to see and learn and feel how amazing it feels to start down that journey.

Kate Beere:
Yeah.

Wendy Dodds:
Well, and a lot of times, it allow like, that type of mindset and that type of behavior, allows us, like, people like us, to be able to give people permission to live their authentic selves without feeling like they’re embarrassed or whatever. But it also allows us to like, one of my things is I know I was born I knew it from when I was a teenager that I was born to work with people, create impact, coach, mentor, all of that kind of stuff. And one of the things that I love is being able to believe in other people before they can even believe in themselves. Love that. Because there’s so many people that don’t believe in themselves because they’re always cutting themselves up or they don’t know how. Yeah. So for even, like, the podcast. Right? We’ve had so many messages from people that have just been like, because I’ve never met you guys or whatever, you’ve poured belief in me and helped me be able to make decisions or recognize things before I even knew what I wanted to do or before I even believed in myself.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Absolutely love that. We’re gonna we’re gonna, land the plane very shortly here. So final lightning round. I mean, it’s gonna be a 2 part question. Mhmm. What is the most important thing you wanna be remembered for, And what advice do you have for our listeners in terms of a first step towards, making a greater impact with their lives? What you wanna be remembered for and, advice to listeners? What would it be?

Rob Dale:
For me, it’s kindness straight up. That’s one of my core values, and and I wanna be remembered for being kind. And kindness is a big word, and it it, you know, it has a lot of different verticals. I’m getting into business language, but it can be applied across a whole lot of different facets of life. So for me, kindness is super important. I think to be able to think about legacy and and kind of moving towards that or what does that even mean for you, I’m I’m gonna say do the 15 day life vision challenge.

Kate Beere:
Like, it

Rob Dale:
helps you map out where you are and where you wanna go, and I think so many people don’t even know where to start with that. And I think that’s a great tool.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah.

Rob Dale:
That’s why we have it.

Kate Beere:
Love it. Yeah.

Eric Deschamps:
Love it.

Kate Beere:
For for me, you know, if we’re gonna use a, like, a a word, it’s compassionate. Mhmm. And it’s one of my core values is compassion, and I try to show up in every situation compassionately. I’ve learned, and it was a lesson that I learned from you, is that compassion doesn’t mean give letting people away with things, right? It’s you still hold accountability. You can still be all of those things. Compassion is sometimes having the hard conversations.

Rob Dale:
Yeah.

Kate Beere:
But the idea that if if if there’s one word people could use to describe me, long after I’m gone, it would be that Rob demonstrated and showed up as a compassionate human being. And and to the second part, and I I love the fact that way back, if you go back and listen to episode 25, 26, whatever, or 7, every single thing that Kate or Wendy would say, the other one would go ditto to that. And now what’s happening is we’ve moved to the point now that it’s you and I. I saw it. You guys know what Kate said. Well, that I know what Kate said, and that is absolutely. That’s the the beauty of the 15 day challenge Yeah. Is it it’s the it sets the road map for you, and you cannot truly leave a legacy without first knowing who you are.

Eric Deschamps:
Right. Agreed.

Kate Beere:
And the 15 day challenge does that.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. 100%.

Wendy Dodds:
Yep. Yep. I would say encouragement. Mhmm. So just going back to what I said before, just helping people live unapologetically. Help them unleash their badassery. Help them

Kate Beere:
Mhmm.

Wendy Dodds:
Just cheer them on.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. Love that.

Kate Beere:
I think

Wendy Dodds:
the world has enough critics, and we need some more cheerleaders.

Eric Deschamps:
Yeah. A 100%.

Rob Dale:
So true.

Eric Deschamps:
For me, it’d definitely be courage, that, Eric was often afraid, but he kept getting in the saddle anyway. Right? I hope to be remembered by that. And, advice, I would say, I would ditto everything that’s been said already, and just get started, and and get in touch with just how much potential you fucking have, and the good that you can do, the difference you can make just by smiling at someone at the checkout line, at looking for opportunities even on in your worst moments, to lift somebody else up. And that itself is legacy. Guys, this has been in a phenomenal Oh,

Kate Beere:
so good.

Eric Deschamps:
So good. And, thank you for having it. And, for those of you tuned in, thank you so much for being here. We hope this has been a meaningful conversation for you. We as always, we encourage you to like, share, and subscribe. Let’s get the Living Richley message out there, and make sure to visit our website, livingrichley.me, where you can find out information right on our home page about the 15 day life vision challenge, and also our Facebook group, which continues to grow and has such great content in it. The Living Richly Nation, you can find out about that. Again, thank you for tuning in every week and supporting this movement.

Eric Deschamps:
We’re so glad that you’re here, and we look forward to seeing you next time. Until then, get out there and live your best life.